The main mission of this website is to present the plan of salvation, and to clear up the confusing mess caused by religious fakes called Lordship Salvationists, who work to keep people unsaved. However, there are other topics relating to the Bible that are deserving of space on this website.
Clergy Response Teams and Romans 13
Have you ever heard of “Clergy Response Teams?” Take a look at the following article. I have underlined the parts of particular interest.
“TESTING THE FAITH
Clergy to be used to quell dissent
Program trains leaders to convince people to obey emergency orders
A government plan to use members of the clergy to quell dissent and objections to government orders during a time of national emergency has been revealed by a Shreveport, La., television station.
The story by reporter Jeff Ferrell on television station KSLA says such “Clergy Response Teams” already have been used – following the hit on New Orleans by hurricane Katrina.
“KSLA News 12 has discovered that the clergy would help the government with potentially their biggest problem: Us,” the report said.
The teams were used to help with the management of the masses following Katrina, according to Durell Tuberville.
He serves as chaplain of the Shreveport Fire Department and the Caddo sheriff’s office, and said the clergy team’s mission was to express the sentiment: “Let’s cooperate and get this thing over with and then we’ll settle the differences once the crisis is over.”
Sandy Davis, director of the Caddo-Bossier Office of Homeland Security and Emergency Preparedness, said there are several advantages, but primarily, “these clergy would already be known in the neighborhoods in which they’re helping to diffuse that situation.”
So government orders to abandon homes, turn over guns, leave livestock behind, or whatever would come to the minds of various officials during an “emergency,” would be easier for people to accept, the report indicated.
The report said one of the biggest tools the clergy members would use would be the Bible itself, specifically Romans 13, where Tuberville said the Bible states “the government’s established by the Lord, you know. And, that’s what we believe in the Christian faith. That’s what’s stated in the Scripture.”
Civil rights advocates have raised questions about the idea of using clergy in such a fashion, noting the balance clergy would have to maintain when asked to do what the government wants under color of their status as a religious leader.
A blogger for the Christian education site, Chalcedon noted that the training has been going on in secret for over a year already.
“The clergy are being advised to use Romans 13 to encourage parishioners to submit to the sudden and massive expansion of government control that takes place during martial law,” the writer said.
WND already has documented a series of executive orders by the president, that so far give the government broad new powers to address private property if it’s related to any one of several issues, all of which are foreign so far.
One recent order, for example, gives Bush the power to freeze the assets of people who threaten Iraq’s stability. A former Reagan administration officials says the wording is so broad it could be applied to any domestic opponent of the Iraq war who has assets in the U.S.
White House press secretary Tony Snow explained the order targets terrorist and insurgent groups not covered by existing authorities who come across the border from countries such as Iran and Syria.
But constitutional lawyer Bruce Fein charged the order violates the 5th Amendment’s requirement that no person shall be deprived of property without due process of law. Fein, associate deputy attorney general under Reagan, asserts it “empowers the president to destroy anyone he says plays a significant risk of undermining the rehabilitation or political reform in Iraq.”
“The order is a stunning assertion of executive power that creates a Sword of Damocles over anyone opposed to the war or who might otherwise come under the umbrage of the president,” Fein told WND.
That order follows a series of orders Bush has issued under the International Emergency Economic Powers Act, which so far have similarly cited “blocking the property” of people who threaten stability in Darfur, Zimbabwe, Ivory Coast, Syria, Belarus, Sudan and the Democratic Republic of the Congo. Of these countries, the only one in which the U.S. is directly involved in a war is Iraq.”
religious leaders, ministers, pastors, etc., have been trained by Homeland
Security to pacify their congregations and neighborhoods during times when the
government is taking away the rights of citizens under the guise of martial
law. Any time that the government wishes to take away more rights from its
citizens, an event could be staged in order for martial law to be declared. And
then these sold-out religious leaders will use Romans 13 in order to convince
their faithful congregations to remain sheep. It’s convenient how Homeland
Security is planning ahead for all of this, as though they know it will happen.
It reminds me of how a drill will be carried out for a shooting or bombing
scenario, and then a week later, or even that same day, a “real” one takes
place. It’s also funny how the government wants the Bible kept out of places
like public schools, but then they can use the Bible when it’s convenient for
simple Google search will yield many links to stories about Christians being
arrested. Whether it’s for reading Bibles on the streets, praying outside of
the White House, or for presenting the Gospel, Christians face persecution.
(It’s worth noting that many of these instances do involve people claiming to
be Christians, but who are actually Lordship Salvationists spreading a false
works gospel.) Meanwhile, many churches have become 501c3 organizations (tax
exempt and state licensed), placing them under the jurisdiction of the
government, rather than under the jurisdiction of God.
now have a nation full of churches that are in bed with the government, and
churches that are led by “pastors” trained by Homeland Security. And these
sold-out “pastors” have been instructed to use Romans 13 in defense of their
betraying actions, as they convince their congregations to give up their rights.
Let’s take a look at this passage of Scripture. I have underlined key sections.
Romans 13:1-7: “Let every soul be subject unto
the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are
ordained of God. Whosoever therefore resisteth the power,
resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to
themselves damnation. For rulers are not a terror to good
works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do
that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same: For
he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is
evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the
minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil. Wherefore
ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake. For
for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God's ministers, attending
continually upon this very thing. Render therefore to all their
dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear;
honour to whom honour.”
The apostle Paul wrote that “rulers are not a terror to good works, but
to the evil.” Reading Bibles, praying, and especially presenting the true Gospel
to the lost are good works. Law-abiding citizens are not resisting the higher
powers, because they do well by subjecting themselves to the law. If believers
are being punished for doing good works, and law-abiding citizens face the
termination of their rights, then we have rulers who are indeed “a terror to good works”. What happened
to the promise from the Bible that claims “do
that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same”? Instead, doing
good seems to be resulting in punishment. Romans 13 says that “if thou do that which is evil, be afraid”.
And yet, Christians who are not doing evil, but are instead doing good, have
been given reason to be afraid. Meanwhile, innocent citizens are at risk of
losing their rights whenever a staged event is used to usher in martial law.
What does all of this mean? It’s quite
simple. The United States government wants people to be submissive. Christians
are seen as an easy target, so the government has attempted to use the Bible
against the very people who believe in it. Ironically, the very passage that
the government has chosen to use works against it. Romans 13 presents us
with a picture of the kind of government that is ideal, one that protects the
good people and punishes the bad people. Folks, we don’t
have that here. We have a system that can create any reason or illusion to take
away the rights of its law-abiding citizens, and a government that has
infiltrated the churches and recruited “pastors” to join the dark side. There
was a time when people could feel very safe in a church. Now, it would be most
wise to stay out of church.
Here is another aspect to give some thought to: Take the
phrase “the powers that be are ordained
of God.” That simply means that the higher powers, whoever they may be, are
appointed by God. Just because God ordains, or appoints, a ruler or a
government, that does not mean that God endorses said ruler or government. Adolf
Hitler was a ruler. Did God approve of the regime of Hitler? Would God have
wanted Christians to submit to a ruler like Hitler? It seems that there are
times when God allows rulers or governments to come into power in order to
fulfill some part of His plan. Or perhaps it occurs for the sake of punishment.
Who can know the mind of God? Someday the antichrist will be the ruler of the
world. God will allow this because it will be His last test for the world,
especially the Jewish nation. Even though God will allow this “power” to have
supreme control for a time, God will not be happy whatsoever with the actions
of said “power.” Romans 13 describes the kind of ruler or government that is preferable.
However, history and prophecy show us that what is preferable is not always
what this world gets when it comes to the “power” that God allows. Homeland Security
wants churchgoers to blindly believe that giving up their rights is part of a
good service that honors God. Homeland Security hopes to achieve this mindset
by causing churchgoers to think that God supports the actions of the
government. Again, history and prophecy illustrate how that is not always the
Romans 13 does not tell believers to be
submissive to an abusive government. It is quite clear from a simple reading of
the passage that the Bible had a different kind of government in mind. When the
Bible repeats concepts throughout Scripture, you can be sure that there is some
real importance to what is being taught. Let’s cross-reference Romans 13 with
another passage in the Bible.
1st Peter 2:13-14: “Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake:
whether it be to the king, as supreme; Or unto governors, as
unto them that are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers, and for the
praise of them that do well.”
Surely the government would love the first part of the
preceding passage, because it tells believers to submit themselves to the laws
of the land. However, believers are then told of a condition that must apply to
the king or governors. A ruler, or government, must be given by God “for the punishment of evildoers, and for the
praise of them that do well.” Folks, when believers are being arrested for
their good works, is that the system that God desired? When those who do well
are not receiving praise, but are instead receiving punishment, which was
supposed to be reserved for evildoers, is that the system that God desired? When
we have a government planning ahead for how to take away our rights, is that
the system that God desired?
When you compare 1st Peter 2:13-14 to Romans
13:1-4, you will see that the Bible taught the exact same thing in two
different places of Scripture. Working through two different writers (Paul and
Peter), God gave believers the same message: If a government is set up in a way
which follows the guidelines given by God, then believers should submit
themselves to the laws of that government. As we have already seen, we do not
have such a government in place. Law-abiding citizens have been given a reason
to fear as they watch their rights diminish. The United States government has
become a “terror to good works”.
Let’s recap and break this all down: Criminals, the ones
doing the “evil,” are the ones who should have their rights revoked. Regular
citizens, the tax-paying people who are obeying the laws of the land, should
not be faced with the constant threat of losing their rights. All it will take
is for some faction of the government to stage one horrible event (which
evidence shows they have done a number of times), and then the rights of
law-abiding citizens can be seized while the government is fully realized as “a terror to good works”. For Homeland
Security to be planning to take away the rights of a society is a sinister
agenda. What’s even more sinister is abusing the very Word of God to make
people think that they are doing the right thing by submitting to such a
government. A “pastor” or a “church” that complies with such a treacherous plan
is extremely ignorant, corrupt, or just plain lazy. Of course, most churches in
America these days do not like to look beneath the surface of things for truth.
They are simply “playing church,” and they do not wish to be challenged. Putting
on the muzzle of 501c3 incorporation further kills any hope of a church doing
much learning or teaching, as churches that are 501c3 incorporated answer to the
government and are not welcome to speak about certain topics.
Homeland Security is counting on believers being stupid.
Homeland Security is counting on a passive group of churchgoers who cannot
understand Scripture for themselves, and who will get their beliefs and
opinions spoon fed to them by way of their backstabbing religious leaders. Don’t
fall for it. If your church is 501c3 incorporated, and/or your pastor is part
of this Clergy Response Team nonsense, then do you and your family a favor.
Leave that church. Do you honestly think that God will bless a church that is making
deals with and trying to please the government more than God? Do you think that
God will bless a pastor who is helping said government to misinterpret Scripture
and deceive the children of God?
Let’s take a look at one more passage of Scripture, which
tells of a time when the apostles themselves did not obey the higher powers.
Acts 5:17-28: “Then
the high priest rose up, and all they that were with him, (which is the sect of
the Sadducees,) and were filled with indignation, And laid their
hands on the apostles, and put them in the common prison. But
the angel of the Lord by night opened the prison doors, and brought them forth,
and said, Go, stand and speak in the temple to the people all
the words of this life. And when they heard that, they entered
into the temple early in the morning, and taught. But the high priest came, and
they that were with him, and called the council together, and all the senate of
the children of Israel, and sent to the prison to have them brought. But
when the officers came, and found them not in the prison, they returned and
told, Saying, The prison truly found we shut with all safety,
and the keepers standing without before the doors: but when we had opened, we
found no man within. Now when the high priest and the captain
of the temple and the chief priests heard these things, they doubted of them
whereunto this would grow. Then came one and told them, saying,
Behold, the men whom ye put in prison are standing in the temple, and teaching
the people. Then went the captain with the officers, and
brought them without violence: for they feared the people, lest they should
have been stoned. And when they had brought them, they set them
before the council: and the high priest asked them, Saying, Did
not we straitly command you that ye should not teach in this name? and,
behold, ye have filled Jerusalem with your doctrine, and intend to bring this
man's blood upon us.”
The apostles were arrested and thrown in prison for
teaching people about Jesus. God sent an angel to free the apostles so that
they could return to their work. The apostles were arrested again and were
reminded that they had been told not to teach people about Jesus Christ. The
apostles thought it over and came to an agreement amongst themselves.
Acts 5:29: “Then
Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather
The apostles knew that there comes a time when believers
cannot be submissive to the higher powers, and that is when the higher powers
are no longer performing the function for which God created them.
“We ought to obey
God rather than men.”
If we have a government that is not set up in the way God
intended, but instead in a way that men have decided upon, then we have a
problem. In that case, we should obey God rather than men. Romans 13 cannot be
used to support submission to a government overstepping its boundaries, and pastors
have no right to be complying with such a deception. Do not support a “pastor”
or a “church” that is part of this evil cause, also known as “Clergy Response